Zostań partnerem serwisu zobacz to w wolnej chwili
Czy warto?
4.090909 wasza ocena
History of Silesia
Komentarze:
Oberschlesien, Du lieber Teil des ostdeutschen Schlesiens !
Alles Schleiern sei dieses Video hier auf Youtube empfohlen:
,,Die Oberschlesier - Tatsachen über Oberschlesien" - zdanie od 19GDeutschG87
huj wam w dupe NAZIŚCI !!!!!!! TYLKO POLSKA !!!!! - zdanie od Dogers57
Poszły won do szwabii faszysty! Tam salutować angeli. - zdanie od GrigorijAleksandr
@Stolzerpole1 wszystko jusz dawno zaplacany, kolego. Nie tylko nasza ziemia
dostaliscie ale milliardy niemcy pompowali do warszawe, i teraz tesz przes
UE. Mówisz ze nie jestes nazi? to czytaj dokladnie co napisales tutaj. Und
wärest du stolzer Pole, könntest du deinen nickname ruhig "dumnypolak1"
nennen - und nicht in der Sprache des Volkes, das du anscheinend
abgrundtief hasst. Ein Widerspruch in dir selbst bist du. Traurig. Das Rad
der Geschichte kannst du nicht zurückdrehen.Die Zukunft zählt - zdanie od Gurny Slunzok
Why Davies is controversial? Only because he refuses anti-Polish chauvinism
popular on the west since the partition period? Yeah great argument MOST
Poles in Germany are immigrants so they can be deprived from the most basic
human rights - to cultivate their traditions and national awareness in
their families. Not to mention that it is based on lies because a large
group of Poles in western Germany are not immigrants. Have you ever been in
Ruhr district? Poles live there since generations. - zdanie od Andrzej Zdybel
next war with us is the final end for poland - zdanie od Adolfo Hitleri
@tommi59tk of course Silesia still exists, german minority and it´s
original inhabitants in upper silesia who keep the tradition and history up! - zdanie od Gurny Slunzok
Sehr richtig bemerkt. Auf solche Fakten (!) weiss man in Polen seit je her
keine Antworten zu geben. - zdanie od Wehrburg
Schlesien, ein untrennbarer Bestandteil des wahren Ostdeutschlands ! - zdanie od Wehrburg
Das Land war recht dünn besiedelt, und nachdem vier Fünftel der Bevölkerung
durch den Mongolensturm umgekommen waren, bemühten sich die Schlesischen
Piasten im 13. Jahrhundert sehr um deutsche Kolonisten, sodass bis zur
Vertreibung der Deutschen 1945–1947 in Niederschlesien der größte Teil und
in Oberschlesien ein nicht geringer Teil der Gebiete eine deutsche
Bevölkerungsmehrheit hatte. Die Mär von der erzwungenen Germanisierung ist
nur ein verzweifelter versuch die Vertreibungen schönzureden - zdanie od 82Empire
@abmellah historically and culturally, Silesia hasn´t be a part of Poland
for more than 700 years, but part of the 1st german empire and populated by
germans, the southeastern part populated of slavic and german people. The
3rd Reich was the biggest disaster in german history and of course it
wasn´t free but a totalitarian regime. It is a theoretical question if it
was legal to annex territoriese or to erase states (like prussia) - but
there are facts that count, not theory :/ - zdanie od Gurny Slunzok
how is it a music? - zdanie od MrSqra
@GurnySlunzok You shouldn't compare historic nations like Poles or Germans,
with separatist regional ethnic groups who's identity is based merely on a
separate language or non-historic fantasie traditions. I recommend you two
books: "Thoughts of a Modern Pole" (by Roman Dmowski) and "Nations and
Nationalism" (by Ernest Gellner). Your definition of nation would lead only
to absurds. - zdanie od Andrzej Zdybel
@SchlesischeKrieger So I guess you would organize an insurrection against
the Polish dominance in Silesia? ;) - zdanie od Andrzej Zdybel
@GurnySlunzok German - Not Slavic Silesian culture was oppressed. You
should also remember that national minority rights were much higher than in
Germany or in the Soviet Union at that time. - zdanie od Andrzej Zdybel
freiheit oberschlesien - zdanie od hermanus88
@GurnySlunzok Russian point of view? Have you know that in the January
Uprising participated even pro-liberty Russians? - zdanie od Andrzej Zdybel
@RitterDesHimmels1 approximately 31% is an old number (still super high),
nowadays scientists and historicans count at least 2-3 million more
ukarinians, but nevermind. Who said that a smaller number of minorities can
be oprressed? I think that if the national minority is bigger, they should
be more represented. You see, now germany as a 'multinational state' could
also be the future of Poland (in fact it would be Poland´s tradition,
right?). Prove me that the minorities in Ger have less rights - zdanie od Gurny Slunzok
@RitterDesHimmels1 no, according to 400.000 german-silesians that left
(well...or were forced to leave more or less would be the better word)
east- upper silesia. Not according to goebbels propaganda but to my family
history e.g. :) Ever heared of Grazynski? Everybody knows he was
anti-german and closed german schools e.g. in the 30´s. No goebbels, but
facts. I wouldnt take him or any nazi thing as a source ;) - zdanie od Gurny Slunzok
@RitterDesHimmels1 How interesting you redommend me Dmowski...this is
everything but an objective viwe on nations, nation building. Nowadays
historic scientist would call Dmowski not a scientist itself but a national
pole with a (from today) chauvinist and old fashioned view of
nations/nationalism/ etc. Would you also maybe recommend me Grazynski as an
example of a good upper silesian voievod? Nowadays he would have been in
jail for what he did. Things developed, RitterDesHimmels1 - zdanie od Gurny Slunzok
@GurnySlunzok Kiepski pewnie z geografi byłeśc co? ;) - zdanie od PolskaWolna
@GurnySlunzok I`m also a Silesian. Of course I know that Wehrmacht soldiers
had no choice - they were forced to join the German military. But even so
they were puppets of a bloody totalitarian regime, so they shouldn't be
welcome by Polish citizens (Volksdeutsche). Polish Silesians (according to
the German census from 1900) were a majority (60%) of population in Upper
Silesia. They had the right for self determination (just like the
inhabitants of Greater Poland). - zdanie od Andrzej Zdybel
@RitterDesHimmels1 The question is, for who? 75% of upper silesian´s
industry was now then on polish territory (good for poland), Grazynski´s
anti-german policy (bad for germans)....a 'freestate silesia' would have
been the best solution for this region from my point of view. this would be
neutral for the silesian people who suffered under german and polish rule. - zdanie od Gurny Slunzok
@RitterDesHimmels1 But did you realize that the piasts were always half
german due to the german wife´s they always chose? The inhabitants of
silesia were from the middle ages also influenced by german culture/genes
again (like silesia was before germanic/celtic), at the battle of legnica
was a slavic-german knight army that fought together. The Piasts spoke
german and were pro-western, not polish. If they wanted a united Poland
then not because of patriotic polish feelings. - zdanie od Gurny Slunzok
Fuck of Silesia ! Poland is poland,schliesien raus aus Polen scheiß nazis ! - zdanie od Oskar Zabik
Polish government in London (durging II World War) wanted only Danzig, some
lands on the border (Lauenburg and Butow, Grenzmark) and Upper Silesia
(with Beuthen, Gleiwitz and Oppeln). It was mayby 25% from "Recoveres
Territory". But Stalin stolen our East (Lwow, Vilno - it was 48% of polish
territory!) and gave german territory where in 80% we havent't any demands
(Breslau, Stettin). - zdanie od PomorskiWilk
@RitterDesHimmels1 Davies is definitely controversial. A historian should
also mention the facts that are not good for Poland. The question is, who
refuses and who spreads anti-polish/german chauvinism? ;) Show me where
Poles are prevented from speaking their language, cultivate their
traditions and so on? I know Ruhr-district very well.Poles CAME there as
immigrants, it´s not a historical grown minority. But they have everything
they want - polish schools on saturdays e.g. - zdanie od Gurny Slunzok
@GurnySlunzok Mnie to wali kolego,ja nie jestem NAZI,nigdy nim nie bylem !
Ale kazdy wie ze nosicie niemiecka krew,niemcy zaplaca co zrobili polakom i
zydom ! I sie nie wypieraj ;;) - zdanie od Oskar Zabik
And you know that Cassubians are an own nation, that around 223.000
declared the cassubian nationality and that around 20,000 only the
cassubian nationality without polish? what does this teach us? 1. Most
Pommeranians were integrated in the german nation 2. Many of nowadays
Pommeranians see themselve only "also" polish. - zdanie od Gurny Slunzok
2 Poles are descendent's of the old Rzeczpospolita only because they always
cultivated the traditions of an independent Poland - even during the
partition period (I mean insurrections and a pro-liberty literature).
That`s why we can say for sure that Poles never lost their national
awareness. I do not support the demands of a separatist groups like
Moravians, Novogrodians, Samogitians and anti-Polish Silesians, because
that continuity between their medieval states had been broken. - zdanie od Andrzej Zdybel
@PolskaWolna no to jak byla historyjo slunsko goroliczku? zobocz yno na
wikipedyjo o Slunsk, tam to samo pisze co jo zech tukyj pokazywol...niech
zyje polska - ale bez slaska ;) - zdanie od Gurny Slunzok
Unfug Pollack(e). - zdanie od Wehrburg
Dir ist bewusst das das Wort annektiert in diesem Zusammenhang nicht
verwendet werden kann/sollte? Die von dir genannten Städte waren noch ein
paar Jahre zuvor offiziell Reichsgebiet (ohne Lodz natürlich). Außerdem
wurden die Gebietsverluste im Osten niemals von der Regierung annerkannt.
Denke also besser darüber nach wer hier welches Gebiet annektiert und eine
Vorlage für den Krieg durch Enteignung, Vertreibung und Unterdrückung
gebildet hat. - zdanie od Deutsches Reich
Thanks for demonstrating your monumental stupidity Danzig is not Pommern
unless you fucking thieves poo-led it Poo-land scum POMMERN FÜR IMMER
DEUTSCH ! - zdanie od Adolfo Hitleri
@GurnySlunzok "slavic silesian culture has always been linked with german
customs, traditions.." -what a propaganda! Slavic Silesians were mostly
peasants among the German society-that`s why it's hard to speak about a
"political point of view" or higher culture in their case-until the XIX/XX
century. German national culture dominated in Silesia. In XIX/XX century
peasants had gain national awareness, and at that time Polish national
consciousness begun to rise among the Polish-speaking Silesians - zdanie od Andrzej Zdybel
@pfkksgksk44 zeby caly swiat by wiedziol i rozumiol ze my slunzoki i slask
nigdy niy byla polska! pyrsk! - zdanie od Gurny Slunzok
@RitterDesHimmels1 I guess insurrections aqre more the polish style ;) - zdanie od Gurny Slunzok
@SchlesischeKrieger silesia is not existed anymore sorry - zdanie od tommi59tk
ino Gurny Slunsk! - zdanie od Gurny Slunzok
Ohne die deutsche Ostsiedlung und die damit einhergehenden gewaltigen
zivilisatorischen Veränderungen, sähe Schlesien noch heute aus, wie die
Strecke zwischen Kiew und Minsk! - zdanie od 19GDeutschG87
I am one eighth Silesian/Schlesisch The rest German. - zdanie od valstar1000
Piastowie śląscy byli tacy sami jak wielkopolscy, kujawscy czy mazowieccy -
tłukli się o tron w Krakowie, bo każdy chciał być polskim królem. - zdanie od PomorskiWilk
Do you remember who started war? Do you remember who in 1939 annexed 90.000
km^2 polish territory (Posen Bromberg Kattowitz Gdingen Lodz)? Who expulsed
800.000 polish people from this territory? And finally, who losted war? - zdanie od PomorskiWilk
@RitterDesHimmels1 Me, as a Silesian, knows what this video is supposed to
show: not the NAZI soldiers were welcomed as carriers of a "political idea"
(a fascist totalitary cruel system) but as GERMAN soldiers - that´s what
silesians saw in them! If you mention the 1st and 2nd uprising, hae a look
where the weapones came from, who lead itm what the aims were. The 3rd
uprising was an illegal polish military action on german territory. Don´t
forget the plebiscite: 60% and more for germany! - zdanie od Gurny Slunzok
@GurnySlunzok Have you ever read at least one book written by Norman
Davies? "God's Playground" was considered by the Polish minority in the UK
as an anti-Polish book. "Microcosm" describes how Poles treated and even
murdered Germans after the war - are these no sad facts for us? I always
appreciated Davies because he is impartial. Ruhr Poles are immigrants for
you? In that case Germans are also immigrants in Silesia, Pomerania,
Masuria and even Brandenburg and Saxony. - zdanie od Andrzej Zdybel
In II Republic of Poland nobody expelled Germans for be german. They leaved
Poland because they didn't want live by the polish authorities. A lot of
emigrants were soldiers, teachers and officials who couldn't find job in
Poland. Germany was richer country than Poland, before 1918 a lot of people
went to Ruhrgebiet and Berlin for work. If you analise who leaved Poland in
1919-1939, you can see that was people from cities and towns. Germans in
villages in mostly didn't went to Germany. - zdanie od PomorskiWilk
Naziści walczyli w imię niemieckiego nacjonalizu i niemieckim interesom.
Walczyli w imieniu wywalczeniu przestrzeni życiowej dla narodu niemieckiego
kosztem innych narodów oraz zniszczeniu wrogów wewnętrznych (Żydzi) i
zewnętrznych (Polaków). Tytuł filmu nie jest adekwatny, bo mówi w zasadzie
o historii Górnego Śląska, a nie całego Śląska. A już nie mówię o tym, że
pominięto historię Śląska z czasów Piastów (pierwsze 300 lat II
tysiąclecia). - zdanie od PomorskiWilk